No, that happy fellow you see here isn’t Alice.
His name is Bosko.
Not to be confused with that chocolate syrup called Bosco that was popular (or was at least advertised a heck of a lot when I was a kid) and that had this jingle:
Oh, I love Bosco!
That's the drink for me!
Chocolate flavored Bosco
Is mighty good for me.
Mommy puts it in my milk
For extra energy.
Bosco gives me iron
And sunshine vitamin D.
Oh, I love Bosco!
That's the drink for me!
I suspect that the alternate version of this jingle was better known to my generation:
I hate Bosco,
Bosco's not for me,
My Mommy puts in my milk
Just to poison me,
But I fool Mommy,
I put it in her tea,
And now there's no more Mommy,
To try and poison me.
The Bosko in the picture is in a scene from a motion picture that was a first – a landmark in the history of cinema. And no, I’m not kidding about that, and I’ll explain later.
But back to Alice.
She was a tragic figure from my childhood. The source of a minor trauma, if you will.
The kind of trauma that Fred Rogers, who understood kids better than anyone, zeroed in on years later in one of his songs.
I can still see him perched on his bathtub the day he reassured his very young viewers that “You can never go down the drain.”
Some in our family made fun of him for doing that. I myself was long past being a toddler (I’d probably recently collided with that 10-ton truck that is known to all as Puberty) and so chances are that I, with the knowing ignorance of youth, joined in the japery.
But if I mocked Misterogers, I suspect my heart wasn’t in it.
Because his song did touch a nerve. And evoke memories of the long-lost Alice.
I made her acquaintance when I was a little kid, at that stage where your parents still don’t trust you to adequately bathe yourself.
And to pass the time while she was making sure my neck and back were as presentable as possible, my mother would croon a tune about Alice. My father might well have sung it too when he filled in for her, but I mostly remember my mother singing it.
And although I think my mother sang it to other kids in the family, I suspect she sang it to me because she liked the effect it had on me – me, the kid who was able to read at a very early age and was, therefore, considered precocious and relatively sophisticated.
For though I tried not to show it, the song did scare the heck out of me.
Which is ironic, because now I can remember only parts of it.
I believe it began with a little musical dialogue:
“Alice, where are you going?”
“Downstairs, to take a bath….”
I can’t remember the lyrics from the middle part of this ditty, but I remember the melody, which, along with the words, built up the kind of suspense and tension that Alfred Hitchcock would have envied.
For you see, our Alice happened to be a toothpick.
And the last two lines went something like:
(Blank blank blank blank blank) in vain:
There goes Alice down the drain!
So of course, when my mother would pull the plug, there was that momentary fear – flying in the face of all that was known about physics – that I might too meet Alice’s fate. Irrational, yes? But then again, although I knew how to read, Archimedes wasn’t one of my favorites.
Some time ago I began wondering where my parents picked up that song.
So I consulted everybody’s reference work: the Internet.
Where you can find anything.
And I mean anything.
And I found nothing.
Absolutely nothing about Alice the Toothpick.
Talk about dying in vain.
My best guess is that someone in my mother’s family made it up. Maybe her brother – my uncle – who was a published poet. Or their father – my grandfather – whom I never met but who was known for his sense of humor.
I suppose it might have come from my father’s side of the family, but I doubt it. His relatives had no discernible sense of humor and I can’t recall them ever laughing at anything, although I suppose that the sight of some guy falling down a flight of stairs might have given them a chuckle, especially if they'd pushed him.
And because no one is still around from my mom’s side of the family, I guess Alice’s origins will forever remain a mystery….
The photo with our friend Bosko is from a 1930 cartoon called “Sinkin’ in the Bathtub.” It was the first Looney Tunes cartoon ever made, and it was animated by one of the true (and I fear still unsung) geniuses of animation, Isadore “Friz” Freleng.
Freleng went on to become a cartoon director – most of the Tweety and Sylvesters were his, he also gave us Yosemite Sam and he helmed (as we critics like to say) my favorite Bugs Bunny cartoon, “Little Red Riding Rabbit.”
And more than a quarter century after drawing the primitive “Sinkin’ in the Bathtub,” Freleng made a masterpiece, “Three Little Bops,” with voices by Stan Freberg.
19 comments:
Mark ... I remember both versions of Bosco. Thanks for the refresher and another great story.
Hi - I was doing a search for the Alice down the drain rhyme and found this post. Thought I'd let you know that this is how my sister remembers it...
Alice, where are you going? upstairs to take a bath. Alice was tall and skinny, just like a young giraffe. Alice got in the tub, forgot to put in the plug. Oh my goodness oh my soul there goes Alice down the hole.
Kirstin:
Thanks very much for your note. And please thank your sister for me.
Obviously, then, this ballad was not confined to the Murphy family. And there's at least one other version of it out there.
Given that, I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be much if anything on the Web about it.
Anyway, thanks again.
My grandmother sang this sonf to me:
Lisa where are yougoing? Upstairs to take a bath. Your shape is like a toothpick. Your head is like a tack. Lisa got in the bathtub. She pulled out the plug. Oh my goodness! Oh my soul! There goes Lisa down the hole! Oh Lisa my love!
The last line sung in a crying voice. I heard it in a newer movie once but can't remember which one. Did you ever find out the origin?
Lisa:
Thanks very much for your note.
It had been a long time since I searched for Alice on the web, but this time I decided to take a different approach.
This time, instead of asking for Alice, I merely typed in "toothpick taking a bath," because the name of your particular toothpick is Lisa and I figured maybe Alice is known by one or two other names elsewhere.
Sure enough, I found a version in which she is named Gladys.
But Alice, I found, still exists -- on YouTube, where you can find several versions of kids singing it, proving that parental (or even granparental) sadism dies hard.
Here's the closest Alice will probably get to a Busby Berkeley-ish production number:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrSJZQJhtdE
For me it was:
"Mimi, where are you going?
Upstairs to take a bath
Mimi, with legs like toothpicks
And a neck like a giraffe, raffe, raffe
Mimi, up in the bathtub
Pull out the plug and then...
Oh my goodness! Bless my soul!
There goes Mimi down the hole!
Mimi, where are you going?
Glug, glug, glug. Sluuurrrrppp!!!"
Thanks, Danielle.
I guess there are a number of versions of this little ditty. I wonder whether it exists in the U.S., or whether other countries have their own versions of Alice/Mimi. Kind of like the way Laurel and Hardy are known by other names in other countries.
I'd be curious to know where it started -- and whether parents today are still using it to terrorize their kids.
this is Lisa again and my grandmother in the US sang that to me so...yes it exists in the US. My great-grandmother was from Wales and married an English man so the roots of that song could very well be the UK :)
I never realized the original name in the song was Alice. Maybe it was originally based om the tale of Alice in Wonderland but instead of a rabbit hole it was referenced to the tub drain hole.
Thanks for your comments.
I hadn't thought of a possible connection with "Alice in Wonderland," but as you point out, there is a similarity that is worth considering.
However, I should clarify that I'm not at all sure that Alice was the original name of the toothpick. It could have been. All I know is that Alice was her name in our household.
I'm surprised there isn't more about this song on the internet or in general since there seems to be so many versions of it and it seems to have made an impression on so many people. Thanks for starting this blog.
So happy to find this! Our version was:
Alice, where art thou going?
Upstairs, to take a bath
Alice, with legs like toothpicks,
And a neck like a giraffe.
Alice stepped in the bathtub
Pulled out the plug and then
Ohmygoodness, ohmysoul,
There goes Alice down the hole
Glug. Glug. Glug.
Stumbled on this thread while searching this song origin, as my mom sang it to me and I gave a new baby...
She used my name in her version:
Shona, where are you going?
Upstairs, to take a bath.
Her body was like a toothpick and her head was like a tack.
Ba-dee-ah-dah-dah-dah
Shona got in the bathtub...
And pulled out the plug.
Oh my goodness, oh my soul, there goes shona down the hole.
Shona, where are you going?
Also very happy to find this. So may different names---Alice, Mimi, Lisa but it's essentially the same!
When I was a child in the 1950's this is what my mother sang to me & my sibs. She's 92 now and though she struggles dementia, she was able to piece the words together with me last week. I wonder how different the melodies might have been for all those who commented.
This is her version, almost entirely what I remember. She most likely would have learned it from her grandmother, a West Texas settler of Benjamin, Knox county.
Anna Mae where art thou going?
Upstairs to take a bath.
Anna Mae, your legs are just like toothpicks,
Your neck ... is like a giraffe's.
Anna Mae got in that bathtub.
Anna Mae pulled out that plug.
Oh, my goodness! Oh, my soul!
There went Anna Mae, down that hole!
(spoken, incredulously)
Anna Mae?
Anna Mae?
Glug, glug, glug.
I grew up in a family of seven children. My siblings and I remember my mom singing this to us.
Alice, where art thou going?
Upstairs to take a shower.
Your form is like a toothpick
And your head is like a tack.
Dum Dee dum dum dum dum.
Alice stepped in the bathtub
She slipped on the soap
Beeeeezoom!
Oh my goodness , oh my soul, there goes Alice down the hole
Alice, where art thou gone?
Someone called for the plumber
But the plumber
He lost his head.
He might have saved poor Alice,
But forgot his tools instead.
Now the moral to my story
Is one you all should know...
When you stand up in the tub
Use caution when you rub.
Alice, where art thou gone?
My French Canadian grandmother sang it to my mother and my mother sang it to me:
Oh Kathy, where are you going?
Upstairs to take a bath.
Your form is like a toothpick.
Your head is like a tack.
Oh Kathy got in the bathtub,
and she pulled out the plug.
OH MY GOODNESS! OH MY SOUL!
THERE GOES KATHY DOWN THE HOLE!
Oh Kathy, where art thou going?
I learned this song from first grade music class with Mrs. Ferguson at Nora Elementary School in Indianapolis (18982-3. I think she had it on a record, but the name was definitely Eloise, not Alice. I thought it was a very creepy song. Years later, I got a Dr. Demento record from the public library with a song called "Eloise" on it. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that it was about a little girl living in the Plaza Hotel in New York City and was not gruesome humor. I believe this was Greatest Novelty Records of the 1950s. Because they were l licensed compilations, they were never reissued on CD, and I 'm not aware of a Dr. Demento compilation on CD that has that particular song. I knew the Mr. Rogers song and never really thought it was possible to go down the drain, but the thought of it happening to someone with an unusual body was sad and creepy to me.
Thanks very much for your comment.
I didn't know about the "Eloise" song, though I know of the character. She appeared in a series of books written by Kay Thompson, who was a singer and choral director who influenced a number of performers, including Andy Williams and, I think, Judy Garland. Thompson also appears in the Fred Astaire/Audrey Hepburn movie "Funny Face."
Another song I wish I could find on YouTube is "Willie the Spider," which Captain Kangaroo used to play. It was about a spider who had trouble tying his shoelaces and would fall down the stairs. (Apparently no one told him spiders don't where shoes.) The end of the song told kids, "Don't grumble each time when you put on your shoes," because you have only two legs to worry about. The song had particular "resonance" for me (as the critics say) because I had an awful time trying to learn to tie my shoes.
Not too long ago I found out something interesting about another Captain Kangaroo favorite, "The Horse in Striped Pajamas," which IS available on YouTube (or was the last I looked): The song (performed by Eddy Arnold and his little daughter) was co-written by Fred Ebb, who later co-wrote "Cabaret."
I'm responding to a thread that began more than twelve years ago (though the last addition was only last year), so I don't suppose anyone will find it.
Also, apologies to all who already know the original (sentimental) song on which the parody was based, but for those who wonder was it Alice in Wonderland, etc ...
Alice Where Art Thou was a popular Victorian (1860s) parlour song (also performed on stage), music by Joseph Ascher, words by Wellington Guernsey. The singer refers to the fact that only a year before Alice had pledged her love to him ... but where is she now?
"One year past this even
And thou wert by my side
Vowing to love me
Alice, whatever might betide"
Your first thought is that Alice has forgotten him, or left him for another. But the words suggest (to me) she has simply disappeared (one hopes not an unexplained missing person) or at any rate not told him where she is going.
He sings about looking for her by rivers, lakes, woods and cold forests ...
"I've sought thee by lakelet
I've sought thee on the hill
And in the pleasant wildwood
When winds blow cold and chill"
But now he looks to Heaven and believes she is among the stars.
"I've sought thee in forest
I'm looking heavenward now
...
Oh! There amid the starshine
Alice I know, art thou!"
If my interpretation of the words is right that is the heartbreaking lot of people who have had loved ones disappear.
That's the serious (sentimental) original song, Alice, Where Art Thou. I suppose it begged for a parody about an Alice (or other name) who disappeared down the plug-hole of a bath, an ideal accompaniment to bathing a child (my views on child-rearing may be regarded as old-fashioned by some - keep them a bit scared, I say).
I first encountered it as simply a throwaway remark, "Alice, where art thou?" when my father (or mother) would refer to my father's Aunt Alice.
Later I bought a CD of Alan Etherden playing popular piano pieces, because
wanted The Robin's Return, a popular piece from 1870 by Leander Fisher, often taught to piano students, which I looked on as almost the "national anthem" of my mother's family, having heard it played by Aunt Dolly and several cousins. On that CD was a piano version of Alice.
During the 1980s there was a popular British TV comedy series set in a small north-of-England shop called "Open All Hours" and the theme music was a "typical" North of England brass band ... playing "Alice, Where Art Thou".
Until today I had NEVER (in Ireland) encountered the evidently popular parody about the bath tub - though I had heard similar sentiments sung by Denis Norden (again parodying sentimental Victorian balads) about a baby "ever so thin, only a skellington covered in skin" ... When the mother turned back to the baby after reaching for a towel, the baby was gone (like Alice)!
"Oh where is my baby,
My baby, she cried! ....
From Heaven the angels replied ...
[in broad cockney accents!]
You baby has gone down ne pulg'ole..."
Thank you for dredging so many memories for me, of parents, cousins, aunts and great-aunts, serious and comic performers, and knitting them together!
JD
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